let's talk about interesting stuff, esalen. and interstellar sex

My Star Trek Encyclopedia says that Klingons, Betazoids and Vulcans (in the least) can have successful sex with humans.  Sex at Esalen has been coyly suggested elsewhere in the iThou threads.

where by whom

did you know everything is sex since energy moves through everthing and everyone....

 Alan Watts use to laugh and say we have sex on the brain which is the "wrong" place for it...

(It's probably all in the brain anyway!) :)

Sex with a Vulcan (like the one on Enterprise -- the last Trek TV series made) Yes !  Please.  With a Klingon?  No never. 

At Esalen my experiences there are so surreal and amazing I cannot (but will someday) put in words (with all changed names of course). 

What aspect(s) of Esalen do you want to talk about, Henry?

I haven't seen Jolene Blalock (Sub-Commander T'Pol) since Enterprise was canceled, Rob.

As has been true for the past couple of years, there is plenty of stew simmering in the caldron, promising to make the upcoming staff week really spicy! 

This YouTube video seems appropriate.

Sheila Chandra, "Ever So Lonely".

i  just re-read the last two chapters of Walter Anderson's 1983 "upstart spring", and am reminded that there always has been turmoil along with glory and heroism at esalen. Esalen will be 50 in 2012 and i hope iThou whole-heartedly supports the Vision until then. if it doesn't work out, see you at sandstone( interstellar,baby)

...since you said that this topic/post/thread is completely "hijack-able", I would like to ask whether anyone knows of any recordings of  Bach's Jesu Joy of Man's Desire ,(Or "Desiring"), which are recorded or played at a very fast tempo.  I heard it played fast when I was young, and that is the way that I prefer to hear it.  This search has been driving me nuts (short drive) for at least a year now.

So far, here is an example of what I've come up with -- but I'm looking for a much faster tempo than this: 

Please help!!! 

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Zen Puppy, do you have a preferred tempo?

Ha! Eight years of piano lessons and I can't tell you the tempo.  Just fast -- faster (quicker) than it's normally played.

At any rate, faster than the above video.  Maybe twice as fast.  (At least vivace???)

Simply, FAST. 

:) 

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ZP, search or youtube apollo 100 jesu joy of mans desire.

...and I do remember this from the 70's:

However, my brother's choir instructor (master organ player) at our church played this so well, (not the rock version) and at a tempo actually just a bit slower than the above (which is by "Apollo 100").

Well, somewhere between the two lies my perfect tempo! :-) 

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I was posting at the same time that you were!  Our posts must have crossed.  Thank you so much! :-) 

This piece gives me so much energy when played fast.

:-) 

ps: (note the kitty in the vid above, on the far right, starting about a 3rd of the way through. Ha! :))

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And, so, even though we're all adults here, I just gotta add this:

(and I think Baloo the Bear was a regular Esalen attendee) 

And now I'm done! Thank you Michael!  :-) 

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Happy you found it, Zen Puppy!

for you: watch out for Darth Tater, the evil lord of the Dark Side of the Farm --  and may the farm be with you. "that giant fruit threatens us all..."

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I've got a drawer full of them, Scarlet Rose.

Many places take plastic bags and recycle them. Sorry if I gave you nightmares of plastic bags taking over your world. LOL

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Scarlet, often when I'm making a meal I get that feeling that plastic bags and food packaging are taking over existence as we know it... Our household recycles cans, bottles, etc.  I'm curious about how much energy is used in recycling.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=bogus-brainteaser-09-12-04

Well, John, the brainteaser (entry above) does suggest several unconventional ways for marketing your book. ;-)

I don't know Gordon Wheeler... but, I know a couple shots of Gordon's Gin arrange my parts into a different Gestalt. :-)

Eek!

And I was just making out my grocery list! :-)

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What's the javelina population like this year, Zen Puppy?

We have two pairs of coyotes living in the open-spaces so the possum and raccoon populations are much smaller.

Hoping Tundra is well.  :-)

I had to struggle a bit to remember Henry's quotation, because those are literally Dick's words, based upon the full transcript of the Wade Hudson interview that Chris gave me access to. Peter's rendition is excellent for what it was intended to do, but he edited out long sections about practice and some other things. Of course, I had to work with the prose to make it readable, which naturally required an understanding of what Dick was trying to say. The passage is extremely important, because it expresses Dick ideas about how to be a good reflector. This involves learning how to clearly shift between non-reflector and reflector modes, while sitting with somebody. There is a development of the concept between pages 182 and 183. It is, perhaps, one of the most important passages in the book. If I had given myself permission to elaborate, I might have said that this is the Gestalt practice solution to transference, except that Dick's practice is a lot cleaner because it doesn't involve the privileged status of a therapist. However, saying this would have been me talking, and even so I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to corrupt Dick's method with those kinds of ideas. In any event, it takes work to learn how to sit in the reflector mode. Ideally, that's what will happen in the process of working through the Gestalt Awareness Practices by a dyad shifting modes between initiator and reflector. It's important to emphasize in this regard that the book is intended to be practiced rather than read, although I recognize the Quixotic nature of this intention. Gestalt practice in Dick's tradition plays very little role at Esalen these days, which is one of the motivations for the book - to preserve something that has been lost. Of course, now there is something at Esalen called Gestalt coaching, which is a kind of Gestalt Practice Light (GPL?); but that, as they say, is another story...

Posted by an FB nursing pal and so good I had to copy it over here to share with you.

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Thank you -- that is so well said, John. I remember watching Dick doing open seat and taking on the posture and gestures of the person he was reflecting.

Really, gestalt practice changed so much for me. As did the Esalen community experience. It's hard for me to imagine I would be the same person I became if I had just done a 5-day workshop once in a while, as so many do. The work scholar/staff experience allows for such a profound ripening of the Esalen experience -- not just the gestalt; but the bodywork, holistic health, meditation, organic gardening,intense mystical awakenings, living by the gestalt guidelines in community, etc.: it all deepens the transformational process. Even the "unwritten" rules and the inner circles within the inner circles. Surviving being ripped apart by others for their own ego feeding made me stronger in the outer world when I returned to it.

Even my dance as a cook there -- having to make meat eaters, vegetarians, octo-lacto-vegetarians, and Pritikin dieters all happy at a meal and have it all be healthy and delicious -- taught me tremendously, about not holding judgments over people's chosen paths and chosen differences, about holding my own place, etc.

The book is a brilliant reminder of my time and deep growth there, and why I would have liked to have become a gestalt practitioner in the outside world.

Thanks so much for that hard work and time and skill and respect you put into that, John.

Esalen-style hugs to you.

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